The War Drums Beat for Iran
In recent months, we have seen growing displays of aggression from both the American and Iranian governments. The Iranians have stubbornly refused to back down on the issue of nuclear weapons, and their President has openly declared that another sovereign nation, Israel, should be wiped off the map.
Meanwhile, the Americans have consistently refused to negotiate with the Iranians, or even their less-than-comfortable bedfellows, the Syrians. The sabre-rattling has merely escalated, and recent indications are that there's a chance the US could half-seriously be considering going to war with the Iranians.
I hope I need not enumerate the reasons that this war will be terrible for Americans, Iranians, and the world at large. America cannot bear the heavy military load it has signed itself up for. It cannot police the world by itself — and that's assuming that its policing is welcome, and won't create more problems for it.
The Iranians, of course, will suffer if war breaks out. The Americans may be overstretched militarily, but their air force and navy are powerful enough to pound Iran into pieces several times over, without a single American boot hitting the ground.
Meanwhile, the world would be greatly upset by the new turmoil in the Middle East. The resulting disruption in oil supplies, and the potential for proliferation of new terrorists cum freedom fighters out of this conflagaration would be far too staggering for the world to bear. Peace, not war, has to be the solution.
But how can we have peace? There are two views, both of which have some merit. One is that the Americans are primarily at fault, and should permit a fellow sovereign nation to join the nuclear club (after all, India and Pakistan invited themselves to the club; why can't Iran, which also has a democratically elected President, do the same?).
Another view is that the Iranians appear to be acting recklessly and dangerously, without regard for the turmoil their sabre-rattling could cause. With their careless handling of the situation, the wrong moves by a few key people could easily lead to an unwanted war breaking out. Worse still, the war could be wanted by Iran — what if the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, wants to make good on his promise of wiping Israel off the map, and has the nukes to do it?
Furthermore, Iran isn't exactly the cleanest democratic regime in the world either. Dissidents are persecuted, the elections are far from fair, and the country appears to be actively destabilising other sovereign/pseudo-sovereign nations in the region, like Iraq.
So, who is right? I believe that both sides are correct, to a certain extent. The Americans have to realise that if war is what they expect, war is what they will get. They cannot reach for the pre-emptive strike button just yet, nor do they have the moral high ground to force the Iranian regime to give up its nuclear ambitions.
The Americans have to be willing to eat humble pie, and attempt to negotiate with Iran. The negotiations with North Korea on its nuclear weapons were surprisingly successful, to some point, and there's no reason to believe that a similar deal can't be brokered with Iran. (This would not necessarily solve the problem of Iran destabilising its neighbours, however — but the US should take what it can get.)
At the same time, the global community must recognise that Iran has no right to support destabilising rabble-rousers in neighbouring countries like Iraq and Lebanon. We make a great hue and cry about the Americans' former destabilisation of countries like Chile and Nicaragua, yet right in front of us is Iran destabilising Iraq and Lebanon, yet all we do is blame the Americans.
Furthermore, there must be a move to ensure a peaceful transition to the nuclear club for Iran, if the global community really wants this country to have a nuclear arsenal at all. The last thing we need is a sudden announcement of a test, like the North Korean surprise pulled last year. The jittery Israelis might respond by attempting to disable the Iranian nukes, and then all bets would be off as to what happens next.
The global community and the Americans should also do more than sit around and play the blame game. We have to support these developing countries, even if they are run by insane autocratic regimes, in their quest for economic development. I am a firm believer that for non-democratic countries, trade tears down a regime rather than builds it up.
Embargoes only work on democracies or pseudo-democracies like South Africa. For autocrats, a free flow of goods and services, and yes, nuclear power technology, opens the eyes of their people to the possibilities of democracy and liberty. The autocratic regimes will then naturally collapse. By embargoing the autocrats, we prop them up artificially by allowing them to unite against the outsiders and behind their leaders — much as what happened in Cuba.
The solution to the sabre-rattling in the Middle East is not simple, but for the sake of world peace and the lives of all people, be they Iranian, American, or whoever, we need to take action. We cannot allow the stakes to continually be raised, until someone finally calls the hand and all bets are off.
If we want to solve the problem of America and Iran, we need to understand that negotiations at the diplomatic table are the only way to go. War is a last resort — not a first resort — and peaceful trade is superior to conflicts and sanctions.
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johnleemk
Infernally Rambling Thoughtless Mind Head Administrator Posts: 948 IP Logged | Posted at 1:27:46 pm Aug 25, 2005
Do you support the war or are you against it? I support the war because I believe it's good to topple dictators and totalitarian regimes. However, I think Bush and the American government screwed the war and its reputation by basing their argument for the war on WMDs, when no such things exist in Iraq. I also think that because of the limited number of troops in Iraq, the soldiers get picked off too easily. The resistance won't be able to hit back as easily if there are enough soldiers to kick their asses every time they attack. |
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rajanr
Member Posts: 1 IP Logged | Posted at 4:03:14 am Mar 7, 2007
The problems America faces right now in Iraq and to the lesser extend Afghanistan is probably less to do with the fact they were striving for the impossible, but rather the Bush administration messed up, big time. <blockquote> The Americans should work to encourage democracy to sprout up where it is already showing signs of possibly taking root, such as in Lebanon or Palestine, instead of trying to foster an artificial democracy where none is to be found, such as in Iraq.</blockquote> The thing is if America had the same idea some 60 years ago, Japan would not be democratic. The problem with Iraq's polity isn't democracy - its the very country itself. Yes, having a strongman like Hussein can deal with many of the problems Iraqi democracy currently faces but that isn't much of a solution. The problem with Iraq is that it have never been a proper nation - its three in one. Multiracialism may well be a good thing (I think it is), but if Iraqis don't want to handle it, forcing Iraq as a united polity is bound to fail. Another problem is actually allowing European technocrats to influence the writing of the Iraqi constitution, and this can be clearly seen with proportional representation and an almost German style of federalism. The current system of governance in Iraq today contributes to the problem because it encourages sectarian parties in such a climate as Iraq. Instead, if there were single-member constituencies, elections would become much more a local event. At local level, people would be more interested in things that directly affect them - the economy, security, etc., and politicians more interested in them (you can't engage in rent-seeking to get unto a party list, after all, if there isn't one). More than that, if for example a Sunni is voting in a Sunni-majority constituency - ost of the choices may well be Sunni. So it does not necessary mean a Sunni party would win - a Sunni from a secular, non-sectarian party may win. But I'm digressing. The problem with Iraq and Afghanistan isn't war itself, but how it was conducted. It would seem America post-Vietnam War has a certain tendency to lose wars. |
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johnleemk
Infernally Rambling Thoughtless Mind Head Administrator Posts: 948 IP Logged | Posted at 10:30:20 am Mar 7, 2007
The problems America faces right now in Iraq and to the lesser extend Afghanistan is probably less to do with the fact they were striving for the impossible, but rather the Bush administration messed up, big time. Haha, that of course is the truth. The war was prosecuted in one of (if not) the worst possible ways. The thing is if America had the same idea some 60 years ago, Japan would not be democratic. The problem with Iraq's polity isn't democracy - its the very country itself. Yes, having a strongman like Hussein can deal with many of the problems Iraqi democracy currently faces but that isn't much of a solution. Thing is, the Japs had a history of being keen to adopt Western ideas when it was proven that they worked. Unlike many Asians, the Japanese had no hang-ups about adopting good ideas, no matter what their source was. (And in some cases, how good these ideas were is questionable - I still go "WTF" every time I see a picture of the Japanese surrendering to the Americans in top hats.) The Iraqis, on the other hand, haven't exactly shown a predilection towards accepting foreign, especially non-Muslim (let alone Western) ideas and ideals. Of all the places in the world to plant democracy, Iraq was possibly one of the worst. If the US wanted to apply domino theory to the Middle East, it should have worked its way up, such as from Lebanon. The problem with Iraq is that it have never been a proper nation - its three in one. Multiracialism may well be a good thing (I think it is), but if Iraqis don't want to handle it, forcing Iraq as a united polity is bound to fail. Agreed. Another problem is actually allowing European technocrats to influence the writing of the Iraqi constitution, and this can be clearly seen with proportional representation and an almost German style of federalism. I'm not well-informed about the influence of German technocrats on the Iraqi Constitution, but it seems to me that proportional representation, etc. are good ideas once the country and its institutions are off the ground. Forcing these things on them while they're just starting out as a democracy seems pretty silly, since these principles assume a history of the rule of law and a widespread understanding of how democracy works. Single-member constituencies would also be a good idea, I think, although I understand the rationale for not having them. Whatever the case, it's clear that the present policies aren't working. The problem with Iraq and Afghanistan isn't war itself, but how it was conducted. It would seem America post-Vietnam War has a certain tendency to lose wars. Amen to Afghanistan. A half-amen to Iraq - I'm not wholly convinced the US should have gone in, but it wasn't that horrid an idea. What made it a horrid idea was the fact that Bush was doing it - it's almost impossible to name a single foreign policy success of his, aside from some sporadic victories early on in the "War on Terror". |
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azrael
Member Posts: 9 IP Logged | Posted at 4:03:04 am Dec 20, 2007
I do support the War in Iraq, as well as Bush and his current administration. I think Bush has had a lot to deal with as a President, even with his father being a former one himself. Just 11 months into his Presidency, Bush had to deal with 9/11, initiate the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, and later; Katrina, without much foreign help both politically, and financially. The U.S., to me, is the sole country with the balls and the ability to police the world--and thank God they do. As for the Iraq War, the U.S. & U.N. have been conducting "dialogue" with Saddam since the end of the first Gulf War, that is, from the end of that war till the invasion of Iraq, an astounding 12 years of "dialogue". Not to mention the dog and pony show played out by the Baath party of we have/don't have WMD's. Also, just before the war, the international media were, on a daily basis, annoucing that oh, the inspectors are coming, the inspectors are coming, day in and day out--one would think that it wouldn't be hard to mobilise a stockpile of weapons around an area the size of California (approx. size of Iraq), furthermore having the home advantage, and, support from neighbouring states. So what were these inspectors to do? I don't know, but they said they didn't find anything. The definitely weren't investigators, just inspectors, and I don't think they could have done the P.I work even if they wanted to. They said they couldn't find it, and everyone assumes there were none in the first place. Would it be logical to assume that? Maybe. But let's say my wife misplaced my keys the other day, but doesn't remember where she placed it, or maybe was just being cheeky and hiding it away from me. I searched all over the house, the garden, the car, but I just couldn't find it. Now, I couldn't find it, but that doesn't mean it never existed in the first place. So along came the U.S., saying we're here to enfore U.N. Resolution 1441 once and for all--and of course you know what the French, Germans and Russians said. Just my two cents. p/s: this man says it better, and with more authority. <http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003053> |
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johnleemk
Infernally Rambling Thoughtless Mind Head Administrator Posts: 948 IP Logged | Posted at 1:32:23 pm Dec 20, 2007
The problem with that logic is that we know of countries such as North Korea and Iran which pose even more plausible threats than Iraq did in 2003, but we aren't doing anything militarily about them. (A recent intelligence report shows Iran has halted work on developing nuclear weapons, but also shows that they were working on them.) To date, no evidence has been found that Saddam was getting anywhere close to a working nuke (unlike Iran and North Korea). Also note that North Korea setting off a nuclear war would be far more devastating than Iraq, despite oil. They would plausibly destroy South Korea, one of the most prosperous East Asian economies, and disrupt China, also a major economic player. America also has bases in South Korea, whereas their only major military presence in the Middle East in 2003 was Saudi Arabia. The most d***ing indictment of the Bush administration in this area, though, is their failure to plan for mopping up after the war, and the evidence that they were actively looking for a reason to take out Saddam, and WMDs just happened to be the most convenient and plausible (if ultimately false) reason. |
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azrael
Member Posts: 9 IP Logged | Posted at 9:30:09 pm Dec 20, 2007
My take on North Korea is that other militarily powerful countries like Russia and China should collaborate to keep it in check rather than solely rely on the auspices of the apparently bottomless well of U.S. money and goodwill to police the world. But they don't. Why? Might I suggest that maybe they want to curry favour with the Democratic (what a joke) People's Republic of Korea to polarise the geopolitic landscape more (taking into account Russian and Chinese sabre-rattling of late; Russian TU-25 bombers flying suspiciously close to Britain and Sweden, Chinese diesel sub popping up in the middle of a U.S. naval group exercise in the Pacific.) Yes, the U.S. does police the world, but yes, the U.S. also prioritises what it does and also thinks of its own interests very much like what every other country is does (take care of it's own interests). This man, Bill Whittle, a pilot, gives a very interesting historical perspective on how previous wars measure up to the present day <http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000039.html> As for the mop-up I would really have loved to seen the influx of brotherly Arab/Middle Eastern assistance into a state that was once ruled by a despot, but no, these oil-rich, gut-lacking states are too busy condemning the U.S., sending fighters into the north to oppose American troops and playing up a victimised rhetoric. |
