Legalising Homosexuality
The relationship between the state and homosexuals is one with lots of scandal and controversy. At one end of the spectrum, you have people arguing that homosexuals have done nothing wrong and should be free to do as they like. At the other end, you have people who argue that we should just stone anyone caught committing homosexual acts.
There are certainly strong ethical reasons, from a religious point of view, for opposing homosexual behaviour. I personally believe homosexuality is immoral. But at the same time, as long as my own rights are not infringed by homosexual behaviour, I see no reason to forbid it.
From a policy standpoint, I see no reason to criminalise homosexuality. Any act between two consenting adults should be permitted, provided this act does not infringe on the rights of others.
At this point, the moral police will jump in and ask if our rights are not being infringed by public displays of homosexual behaviour. I'm as creeped out by obvious over-the-top public displays of affection by any couple, straight or gay, as the next conservative, but if there should be limits on public behaviour, I think they ought to be set by society.
For example, society finds public nudity, public sexual intercourse, etc. far too scandalous to be permitted. However, they have not seen fit to criminalise public displays of affection, as evinced by the fact that the moral police are often a tiny majority.
An obvious concern is that if children are exposed to the idea that a homosexual relationship is normal and fine, they may in turn become homosexual. But this seems odd to me. After all, many immoral things are not illegal, and yet this does not turn the average child into an unethical violator of the laws of God.
Am I more prone to becoming an adulterer because I am aware that adultery is not a crime, and have seen openly adulterous relationships? I think not. The "won't someone please think of the children" crowd are exaggerating the impact exposure to immoral behaviour can have on children.
In the first place, the onus is on parents to protect their children from exposure to experiences that they do not think fit for the young. If you don't want your kids to know about sex, then don't subscribe to pornographic television channels.
At the same time, parents have to face the reality that in this world, there will always be immoral people, be they adulterers, liars, or homosexuals. Obviously blatant over the top displays of immoral behaviour should not be tolerated, but is there anything more particularly wrong with seeing two men holding hands than seeing a pair of obvious fornicators (normally you can tell from the discrepancy in age — it's rare to see married couples with a huge variation in age) cuddling?
Homosexuality should be legal. Whether it is immoral is a personal question that should be left to the individual, but it is repugnant to prevent consenting adults from engaging in consensual actions that do not harm the public.
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johnleemk
Infernally Rambling Thoughtless Mind Head Administrator Posts: 948 IP Logged | Posted at 8:08:16 am Nov 25, 2005
Sexual consent. Under what conditions do you think consensual sexual relations can be engaged in? I know most (if not all) of us here are virgins, but seeing this in the newspaper today made me wonder... In England, a judge ruled yesterday that even if you are drunk and have no memory afterwards of doing so, a "consent" given is still a consent. However, under common law and precedent, someone who is intoxicated cannot legally consent to sex. How do you feel about this? I don't think anyone who is under the influence should be able to give consent. If you can't drive, why can you f***? Drunkenness only makes you more susceptible to being manipulated into a relationship you don't want. (Yes, I know the irony - the hardest alcoholic beverage I've ever consumed is shandy.) What about drugs? (Again, I suspect none of us have gone on an LSD trip before.) I think it's pretty clear that if you think you're being swallowed by a colourful monster, you have no business consenting to sex. Any sexual relations you engage in with another person are statutory rape. Now, on a less legally-blurred line, what about age? What do you think should be the minimum age of consent? How should paedophiles or minor-with-minor sex be punished? I think 21 is a pretty decent age for consent, but it does strike me as rather arbitrary - what makes a person on his/her 21st birthday so different from the day before in terms of maturity? And as for sex among minors (as an aside, I think that's gross), I don't know. I'm a minor myself, and I find most of my peers (in other words, most of the people who will respond to this post) way too immature to be getting anywhere near a pharmacy with intent to purchase a contraceptive device, let alone losing their virginity. Some people I know who are older than me find it impossible to believe a 13-year-old is capable of consent. Can the Forum Psychiatrist help out here? |
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ricardo
Member Posts: 73 IP Logged | Posted at 10:11:44 pm Dec 4, 2005
Nuitari has it right. no_game, you said condoms can't prevent you from getting AIDS. That's pure bulls***. It's one thing to say that condoms don't protect you from some methods of transmission. It's another thing to imply (as you did) that condoms are totally useless. Next time think before you make a brain fart. |
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User61
Member Posts: 17 IP Logged | Posted at 11:08:06 pm Dec 9, 2005
More OT fun: I think what no_game was implying is that condoms will not reduce the probability of contracting AIDS to zero, which is a fact. |
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Nuitari
Member Posts: 224 IP Logged | Posted at 1:30:34 am Dec 10, 2005
actualy i think no game is saying he thinks ppl kisses so wildly till thier gums bleed hu the hell kises like that? ur kissing hr not biteing |
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User61
Member Posts: 17 IP Logged | Posted at 10:18:37 am Dec 10, 2005
It pains me to say this.. grow up people. Grow up. |
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johnleemk
Infernally Rambling Thoughtless Mind Head Administrator Posts: 948 IP Logged | Posted at 12:14:19 pm Dec 10, 2005
Hehe. We're all only 15. You should be glad we can hold discussions at this level. |
